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Re: And since I totally hijacked your diary... (2.00 / 1)

I hit Senator Clinton on a couple of issues:

1) Inspiration: she often repeated the line that "Obama has a speech". Now if that isn't an insult of the highest order, I don't know what is. This country needs to be inspired, and she keeps on telling us that it's not going to happen. I take issue with that.

2) Clinton, woman of the people? Not so much: A reference to some examples Dowd provided about how Clinton's connection to the middle class is a newly found thing.

3) Clinton's father paid cash for their house: I'm not making this up, she said it in one of her Senate speeches. Besides, accusing Obama of elitism was pure bullshit, and that's why I brought up that point.

4) Clinton speaking engagements (including fees) and donations to Clinton library disclosures.

I still don't see where the bashing took place.


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by lizardbox on Sun May 04, 2008 at 04:07:13 AM EST
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Re: And since I totally hijacked your diary... (2.00 / 2)

I agree with you on a lot of points.

Do I think she is a "woman of the people?"  Well, I do think she has done some great things for people.  Also, I think her campaign has done a great job of making her appear as a woman of the people.

Whether her father paid cash for his house or not is of little consequence to me, really.  The charges of elitism, I agree, are pure bullshit.  I think both Clinton and Obama have been very fortunate.  As a woman myself, I can understand any "trials and tribulations" that come with one's "inferior" gender, but I really do not believe her upbringing even compares with Obama's.

And yes, I would like to see some records from the Clinton Library.  I was appalled when Bill suggested Dubai be in charge of our ports, and not to get all "conspiracy theory" on anyone, but I wouldn't be surprised if that might have something to do with the Library.

Like I said, I didn't see it as bashing, but seeing as it wasn't a "positive" reflection on Hillary, I can see how it would be perceived that way.


John McCain smells like mothballs.
by asherrem on Sun May 04, 2008 at 04:20:27 AM EST
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Re: And since I totally hijacked your diary... (2.00 / 2)

Yes, we do seem to agree on a lot of points (all, I think)

I know she's done great things for many people, which is what makes the latest pander on gas taxes even more confusing, the "obliterate" Iran comment disturbing, and the discounting of the states she lost very unfortunate.


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by lizardbox on Sun May 04, 2008 at 04:25:18 AM EST
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Re: And since I totally hijacked your diary... (2.00 / 2)

I would agree with you on all of those points as well.  As I've said many times before, it is not really Hillary who turns me off, per se, but the people who run her campaign.

I have a lot of respect for her, and she's been a role model of mine for years.  People can argue campaign tactics with me all they want, but I truly believe those in her employ are doing her a great disservice.


John McCain smells like mothballs.
by asherrem on Sun May 04, 2008 at 04:40:48 AM EST
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