Let the people decide - not the party bosses.
The people have decided. That's why Obama's won 38 states, and that's why he's about to become our nominee.
Oh - so that convention in August... that's just one big coronation then?
Note to Delegates: No need to show up to vote - your ballots have already been filled out for you.
You keep fighting until August. Democrats will rally around our nominee now to battle McCain.
Great!
Hillary and her 17 (nearly 18) million supporters will thank you when the Supers wise up and side with her in Denver. ;o)
Whatever helps you sleep at night.
its not even worth it.
let her say what she wants, its her right to do so.
she isn't even really worth commenting on anymore.
does anyone really care about algere has to say? not like anyone expects to find any truth or anything.
Can I get that in writing?
I don't care what you have to say. I stopped caring (and stopped reading) a long time ago. Keep fighting the battle. As the days go by, you'll just find yourself defending people that just keep getting more and more reprehensible as all the sane people leave the room.
Like right now, you find yourself in the position of defending a true bigot. One that clearly has a great deal of problems with black people. A couple of months ago, you wouldn't have been reduced to this.
She's a liar anyway. She listed Waitress as her occupation on her donation to Clinton's campaign. She's actually a real estate agent in New York City. So for her to cry about being a second-class citizen is pretty reprehensible in and of itself.
Feel free to troll rate my comment. It probably deserves to be. Sometimes I just have to let stuff out.
Troll rate truth? Why?
I care about what you have to say, Alegre. I don't always agree, but I find your passion, loyalty, and determination inspiring.
You are loved!
Even the greatest of HRC supporters are now doing what is best for the party and country. HRC tried to destroy the party and people need to be bigger than her. This is why people were asking her to drop out sooner to stop this from happening. The math was never in her favor.
How is that a response to my comment?
I'm with Hillary until she says its over. When that happens, I will gladly support the nominee. Your arrogance and your making stupid accusations about Hillary trying to "destroy the party" doesn't help with party unity.
Yes, Hillary Clinton tried to destroy the party. That's a sure-fire way to win friends and influence people.
And promises to fight for the Democratic nominee, you'll be right there with her, won't you?
Go join the Hillary Party then. You are overly unreasonable.
Does anyone really know Alegre in person? How long has she been in the party or is she new to it? I think we have a Repiglican here. This is not good at all. You must learn how to lose or get out of the party but the vindictiveness is going to destroy this country and for what? So you can be happy that Obama loses? This is an example of an 8 year old mind - recess is over!
some of what alegre says, and we had our battles when Edwards was still in the race, I sincerely believe that alegre is a good person and a good Democrat. She and I share many progressive values.
She is no Republican. She is a strong advocate for her chosen candidate. That's a good thing. I want people involved.
There is no reason to attack alegre personally. Disagree on the merits of her arguments. It's really not hard to be civil if you try.
supporters are Democrats -- you are not. Most of Clinton supporters are intelligent, classy and hell-bent on putting a Democrat in the WH -- you are not. Most Clinton supporters do not align themselves with racists, Larry Johnson (redundant) and Fox News -- you do. If you think you represent those 17-18 million good Democrats, I have news for you, you do not.
You need professional help.
Seriously. Not snark.
Terry McAuliffe just said on the Today show that this isn't going to the credentials committee and it isn't going to the convention. When Obama rolls out a sufficient number of super delegate endorsements to put him over 2118, Senator Clinton will congratulate him, call him the nominee and get on with the business of unifying the party.
Wow, did he really say that? Because if there's anyone who knows about giving Democrats huge electoral losses, it's Terry McAuliffe.
Well he is Clinton's national co-chair. Yes, he said it. IIRC Halperin has it on his page, buried under the Clyburn endorsement.
Happy to.
Just let me know when someone asks an actual quesiton rather than offer up a load of... well you know.
I tend to ignore furious and idignant BS but hey - that's just me (shrugs).
Honestly, my 19 year old gave up writing in this style about 3 years ago.
Will you support Obama if he gets the nomination?
Since when do you ignore your own diaries?
Do I sense a strike on the horizon for MyDD too?
Oh, please. Yes. If all the people who are not supporting the Democratic nominee went on strike, we could actually discuss the race against McCain.
The Clinton, DLC-bunch are the very definition of 'party bosses.' Or at least they were.
Too rich. Thanks for the flashback - I haven't seen someoen toss out the DLC at us since we left dKos. Always good for a laugh ;o)
Are you going to answer any questions, alegre, or just hide behind TRs?
What are you laughing about? The DLC is indeed the epitome of insider politics, cozying up to the corporate types, playing it up with the lobbying big money crowd, all in the name of making the party more moderate.
Deal with the issue sometime instead of throwing out a quip that isn't remotely convincing.
If you don't think the DLC is perfectly happy with Obama as the nominee then you don't know much about the DLC. Half the guy's domestic policy staff are DLCers. The only thing they disagree on is Iraq, and foreign policy was never the DLC's strong suit.
Look at their website. She's on their Leadership Team and Bill founded the organization. The DLC candidate is clear. Now they'll endorse Obama when he's the candidate, but that does not mean he was their first choice.
Bill Clinton didn't found the DLC. Al Fromm, Will Marshall, Sam Nunn, Dick Gephardt and a handful of others founded it. The DLC did not endorse this cycle, they liked all of the viable candidates, including Clinton and Obama.
Obama's policies are very much aligned with the DLC, arguably more so than Clinton's.
candidate's economic policy on its homepage. And the Clintons most certainly helped found the DLC. I really like what he says here:
President Bill Clinton, in his speech to the 1998 DLC Annual Conference, said, "[New Democrat ideas] are reviving center-left political parties throughout the industrialized world as people everywhere struggle to put a human face on the global economy. Today, less than 15 years after we started, the ideas pushed by the DLC are literally sweeping the world."
Did you notice that "we"? And the coup de grace is that Clinton is on the DLC's Leadership Team. It is just ridiculous to claim that Obama is more tainted by the DLC than Clinton.
I haven't claimed anyone was more "tainted" by the DLC. I've said that the DLC is happy with either candidate, and that if you look at Obama's plans they are more aligned with the DLC's domestic policy approach than Clinton's are.
homepage.
Do you always greet uncomfortable facts with nervous laughter?
and been ignored by the true believers, because Hillary is a woman. It's not about policy with a good many of her supporters.
Alegre,
If TX caucus fraud is such a glaring and terrible problem, why no statement on it from the Clinton campaign or a single TX superdelegate or elected official?
Have they come down with a severe case of shyness?
Tsk Tsk Tsk... for someone who so enjoys playing in my sandbox whenever I post a diary, you clearly haven't bothered to read tonight's other post - have you? :)
You have bloggers commenting on other bloggers. No one in the Clinton campaign or the TX Democratic party has said a peep - why's that?
They issued two press statements the day of the caucuses.
Just go read my other diary. There's a link to one of them there.
Serious question.
ah, so that one is your sock-puppet, I suspected, but thanks for verifying it
Is this snark?
Let this person vent by her lonesome.
sigh, such a pungent straight line. so sad he is humor-impaired and does not even realize it :)
I laugh at your comments all the time. Does that count?
Really, Alegre, do you think this is helping Clinton, or is it just a habit now? Does it bother you even the Clinton supporters, by and large, find you lacking in any credibility now?
Seriously, how many times do I have to say this? We've seen what real Clinton supporters act like time and time again here- and they can support Senator Clinton and fight like hell for her without resorting to propaganda, rhetoric, intellectual dishonesty, and sourcing primarily from hate sites. Look at grlpatriot's diary on the rec list right now- she actually spent time trying to talk and defend herself, her point of view, and Senator Clinton. She didn't engage in a hit and run multiple smear-diary spamming streak.
I hope you're prepared for the post-primary period, when nobody will take you seriously- ever again.
Gave him a majority of elected delegates back on May 20th.
This is a question.
Alegre, you do realize that part of Sen. Clinton's rationale for many weeks was precisely that party bosses (super delegates) actually get to decide. Her point being and stated repeatedly that this is NOT a Democratic process. I don't necessarily agree, but thought you'd like to know that you were arguing a point opposite your candidate.
