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Re: New York Times Slams Obama (2.00 / 3)

Permit me to repeat my sentiments earlier:

"As I view several comments and diaries on this isuuse and this not direct response to the diarist per se. But what is depressing to me is seeing an ever so subtle change among democrats now on mydd to start sowing the seeds of maybe we need to move away from our stance of must get out of Iraq by Dec 2009.

We have had a non nuanced position all through the years, primaries and I'm watching diaries and comments now that would be unimaginable a few months ago.

Democrats lets not succumb on our long lasting stance on Iraq."  


He was warmly received by House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, who called him "a leader that God has blessed us with at this time."
by roxfoxy on Fri Jul 04, 2008 at 12:22:03 PM EST

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I also like to add that I have not seen one diary so far today that is speaking to July 4th and the sacrifices our men and women have made not just in Iraq and Afghanistan but for decades in wars past.

You see when they join up to serve the country they do not come with political tags and their deaths in combat should not be used as such on this great day for a great nation like ours.

Hoo-rah!
semper fi marine!


He was warmly received by House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, who called him "a leader that God has blessed us with at this time."
by roxfoxy on Fri Jul 04, 2008 at 12:27:27 PM EST
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Happy Fourth! And the best to all our soldiers.


The Moose is on the loose. "And I scream at the top of my lungs, what's going on?"
by Hollede on Fri Jul 04, 2008 at 12:49:39 PM EST
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oh, for pete's sake. the 4th of july is about our independence from Britain. Do we have to turn eveything in this country now into a hoo-haw for the troops. the 4th of July is about the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution and the founding of a new nation supposedly committed to rights and liberties never before accorded citizens before.


by linfar on Fri Jul 04, 2008 at 01:27:06 PM EST
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Actually I am not much for displays of patriotism or a big hoo rah (whatever) type person. I do have friends who have family etc in the armed services and two of my better friends over the past eight years are crusty old retired soldiers. I was simply responding to someone above, who seems to have an affinity for the military. My comment would never be addressed to you or someone like me. I apologize if you find it offensive.

I do feel that I think about our country in a different way than many other people. I suspect you and others around here feel similarily. I think about the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution, and our remarkable form of government throughout the year. I (and many of you I am certain) work to keep these liberties from vanishing from our country on a daily basis. Those who do this are patriots in the truest sense of the word.

So I will avoid town, because it will be jam packed with tourists. We will sit out on our lawn and watch the fireworks across the lake. That is if the mosquitoes don't have us for dinner first. Finally, I will try and contemplate what it really means to be an citizen of the United States of America.

BTW, I will say that one of the crusty retired soldiers worked as the other Investigator with me at the county. When I first met Joe in early March of 2001 (he started there two weeks after me), I thought I would absolutely hate this guy. When I was told that I would have to travel with him across the state to do a training, I thought I would die. Funny thing is, once we got underway, we started talking about politics, and we got on the subject of civil liberties and other issues of great import. I was as surprised as he, at how much we agreed. That is until the end of our passionate converstion about saving the country, and we were starting to lay blame for our worst problems. Joe  said "and it's the left" at the exact moment that I said "and it's the right". I was driving, and I looked at him looking at me in shock. I am certain that my face mirrored his. Then, again in unison, we broke out into a fit of laughter. Then we became friends. When he quit to work for another county in early 2004, he took me aside and thanked me for helping him become a Democrat.

Happy Fourth!


The Moose is on the loose. "And I scream at the top of my lungs, what's going on?"
by Hollede on Fri Jul 04, 2008 at 02:23:36 PM EST
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Uh, never mind, I guess I thought you were talking to me. Can I erase my post? Heh.


The Moose is on the loose. "And I scream at the top of my lungs, what's going on?"
by Hollede on Fri Jul 04, 2008 at 02:39:32 PM EST
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and do we not fight every war to maintain that freedom from external forces?

I'm sorry if my made in america pride got in the way of history.


He was warmly received by House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, who called him "a leader that God has blessed us with at this time."
by roxfoxy on Fri Jul 04, 2008 at 04:01:04 PM EST
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That was Veteran's Day and it's over.  
This is Independence Day -- maybe you could allow us to celebrate the birth of our country and our Bill of Rights without trying to inject troop-worship into it.  
by KathleenM1 on Fri Jul 04, 2008 at 06:21:15 PM EST
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Silly me. I forget that to enjoy independence it takes more than a declaration. It take men/women to scarfice lives behind it.


He was warmly received by House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, who called him "a leader that God has blessed us with at this time."
by roxfoxy on Fri Jul 04, 2008 at 07:38:46 PM EST
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It must be really subtle I haven't noticed any   one changing their stance on Iraq. Certainly not McCain.


by Politicalslave on Fri Jul 04, 2008 at 07:32:13 PM EST
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