Poll
Should Hillary Clinton Campaign for Obama?
Yes
No

Votes: 31 Comments: 0
Results : Vote Link : Polls
I happen to agree (none / 0)

I think that there are other ways that she can use her influence and power behind the scenes for now. The media treatment of her is just toxic and would not be helpful - let alone the integrity arguments expressed above. She wasn't born yesterday - I think we will see what true leadership and commitment to principles beyond herself really look like now. Good thought.
by pan230oh on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 10:26:37 AM EST

Re: I happen to agree (1.00 / 0)

Oh Oh I got an idea...How about this. we have her campaign so the people who are against her campaigning will think she may not campaign and be tricked into seeing her campaign- all the while she is or maybe is not campaigning???

P.S if you followed my logic above , you have bought ito the diarist's logic. :P


Rise / Repeat / But for god's sake don't spin!
by aliveandkickin on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 10:57:12 AM EST
[ Parent ]

I disagree! (none / 0)

Romney, McCain, and Huckabee have ALL said CRAP  against each other yet Romney and Huckabee are now both campaigning for McCain.

I think that Obama needs to campaign by himself for awhile and perhaps Hillary could campaign for him in the Fall.


by puma on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 10:27:43 AM EST

True (none / 0)

Primaries produce all sorts of nastiness. It will be up to Hillary Clinton to undo her own pro-McCain remarks.

At the end of the day, the positives of Hillary Clinton rallying her own supporters to Obama faf outweigh the risk of pairing her own past comments with current sentiment.


by elrod on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 10:31:37 AM EST
[ Parent ]

I disagree. (2.00 / 4)

Hillary is the only person who can convince her core supporters to back Obama.  If they feel like she is being shoved aside, that will only make matters worse.


Another Clintonista against John McCain
by psychodrew on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 10:37:15 AM EST

Re: Hillary campaigning for Sen. Obama is a bad id (2.00 / 1)

"but further analysis proves beyond doubt that it is a bad idea."

I did not even have to open my Crap of the World reference book to spot this.

I can go with 2+2=4 beyond a doubt.
You personal opinion did not sway me.
Sen. Clinton campaigning for Nominee Obama
will ensure a Dem. landslide...
"beyond doubt."


"harlequin speech of suicide, demanding instantaneous lobotomy"
by nogo postal on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 10:38:54 AM EST

By all means ...... (2.00 / 2)

she should be reitred out to pasture to appease the folks who detest her so much.

I'm gettin' pretty tired of this crap, and so are lots of her supporters and folks who still hold both Clintons as respected leaders of the American people.

Stop.  Stop now.


Hell's bells, even the GOP didn't have to crucify Eisenhower's record in order to make Reagan their 'saint'. We can have two great ones, you know?
by emsprater on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 10:49:36 AM EST

BTW... (2.00 / 1)

I'm pretty sure this is a troll diary.


Gobama!
by USArmyParatrooper on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 10:51:39 AM EST
[ Parent ]

I agree (2.00 / 1)

Why can't these people just give it a rest?  Many of the Obama people have been gracious in victory, and a few have not been.  Frankly, I find this latter group increasingly annoying.


That's it, baby; let's go win this election!
by Beltway Dem on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 10:52:06 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: I agree (none / 0)

He was a rabid Clinton supporter back during the Primary Wars; not that your statement was false, but just to frame the diarist in it.


Serious question- Is This Snark?
by ragekage on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 11:13:50 AM EST
[ Parent ]

I Disagree (none / 0)

She wasn't savaged anymore than Obama. But I do agree she is a much easier target for GOP attacks, but that's irrelevant unless she's on the ticket.

You don't spend money putting out attack adds against someone who's merely campaigning for your opponent.


Gobama!
by USArmyParatrooper on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 10:50:26 AM EST

Give it a rest. (2.00 / 2)

Is there never an end to bashing Hillary?


That's it, baby; let's go win this election!
by Beltway Dem on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 10:50:34 AM EST

Re: Give it a rest. (none / 0)

The diarist was pro-Hillary during the primaries.


I'm voting for Saxby Chambliss!
by Jess81 on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 11:07:14 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Still, (2.00 / 3)

I am utterly sick of continuing barrage of diaries demeaning Hillary.  I don't care where people stood before Obama secured the nomination; this is incredibly bad for party unity.


That's it, baby; let's go win this election!
by Beltway Dem on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 11:10:10 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Hillary campaigning for Sen. Obama is a (2.00 / 1)

You really should be hired as a Democratic strategist with these gems.  Whatever.


by rfahey22 on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 10:52:19 AM EST

Re: Hillary campaigning for Sen. Obama is a bad id (none / 0)

Well, it could go either way depending on how Hillary and Bill handle it, and how much room the media provides.

But I am not sure how necessary it is, now that I have learned that that Federation appears to be behind Obama.

"Spock, Obama, and the New Star Trek Nation"
http://msa4.wordpress.com/page/2/


Mitchell Aboulafia
by Mitchell A on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 11:01:39 AM EST

Re: Hillary campaigning for Sen. Obama is a bad id (none / 0)

The Federation? What a bunch of pansies.


Serious question- Is This Snark?
by ragekage on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 11:14:27 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Hillary campaigning for Sen. Obama is a bad id (none / 0)

Careful, pansies everywhere will be offnded, and folks who are not pansies but are regularly framed as such will definitely be offended.

Of course, those agreeing with McClurkin will see the validity of offending pansises..

... it does digress ....  and it's not even pansy season, they are a cooler weather flower, anyway.


Hell's bells, even the GOP didn't have to crucify Eisenhower's record in order to make Reagan their 'saint'. We can have two great ones, you know?
by emsprater on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 11:24:08 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Hillary campaigning for Sen. Obama is a bad id (none / 0)

The Federation? "Oooh, we can't interfere, the primary directive, live long and propser!" Pfft. Give me a break. And all the aliens are greener versions of humans with pointy ears or somesuch thing.

(by the way, ems, if you still can't spot the snark of the original poster, we're talking of the Federation of Star Trek fame... though this was pretty funny. ;)


Serious question- Is This Snark?
by ragekage on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 11:29:45 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Hillary campaigning for Sen. Obama is a bad id (none / 0)

No man, I got it, trust me.

I'm just trying to subtly let you know that some folks who march to a different drummer won't take well to hearing the 'pansies' slur slung about at anyone, not even Trekkies.

I know you got that too.  Now I have to go and see some of my good friends who usually have some type of events historically in June where rainbows and marches and leather, high heels and lame, girls and guys on motorycles and college kids who have moved far from home to keep from embarassing the family all come together in one place.

Peace out.


Hell's bells, even the GOP didn't have to crucify Eisenhower's record in order to make Reagan their 'saint'. We can have two great ones, you know?
by emsprater on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 01:09:18 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Hillary campaigning for Sen. Obama is a bad id (2.00 / 1)

I think Hillary needs to take the head off of anyone  in the press who attacks her character. She should not let the press come to her with made up quotes and let them get away with attacking her honesty. This applies most strongly to liars like russert and Brian williams of the media. She should do whatever is asked of her with her head held high.  


by rocky on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 11:02:47 AM EST

You. Are. A. Moron. (none / 0)

seriously dude.  seriously?


by easyE on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 11:05:49 AM EST

Re: Hillary campaigning (none / 0)

Cognotive dissonance has seldom stopped politicians in the past.....


by Reaper0Bot0 on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 11:18:25 AM EST

Re: Hillary campaigning for Sen. Obama is a bad id (2.00 / 3)

people who are actually IN the obama campaign have showed a similar ignorance of the dynamics:

"Look at how many switched today to Obama," he said. "Look at the Clinton supporters, look at Maxine Waters [the congresswoman from California who endorsed Hillary Clinton in late January but switched to Obama on Tuesday], who were passionate advocates for Hillary, but who switched to Obama."

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/060 8/10827.html

so successfully muscling one elected official, whose career depends on toeing the party line, means that all of hillary's supporters will automatically support obama. boy, these people are new to politics.


by campskunk on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 11:22:41 AM EST

I think diarist's basic premise makes no sense! (2.00 / 1)

The diarist's comments are incredibly myopic due to two "minor" details!

1.) Half the freakin' party voted for her!

2.) This is not a decision that folks like us are going to have ANY input on. Obama and his advisors will use their surrogates as they see fit, and as their internal polling results and field organizations advise them.

Clinton in NY, WV, KY, AR, CA, MA, and many other places where her message hit a popular chord will be critical to Obama's chances in November.

This doesn't even take into account her ability to raise up to $100 million on Obama's behalf!

I think the diarist needs a lesson in basic demographics and common sense.


by bobswern on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 11:49:54 AM EST

Re: Hillary campaigning for Sen. (none / 0)

This week has yielded mountains of proof the the old adage:

"You can't win for losing."

Your guy is going to be nominated. I know that winning is tough- very hard to deal with. Give her a break.


by arkansasdemocrat on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 11:54:51 AM EST

Re: Hillary campaigning for Sen. Obama is a bad (none / 0)

If Barack and Hillary can set aside their differences and work together (as politicians do all the time), then their supporters should have no trouble doing the same. It's only so-called "supporters" or incredibly immature people who hold on to these resentments.


by LakersFan on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 11:56:06 AM EST

Re: Hillary campaigning for Sen. Obama is a bad id (none / 0)

I think it would be a terrible mistake for all involved: Hillary, Barack, and the Democratic Party in general for her not to campaign vigorously for Obama. With the exception of a few militant partisans, people want the hostilities to end. I know I do. I am SO tired of all the sniping and back-biting.

I want nothing more than to visit this site and see the guns trained on McCain rather than each other.

If Hillary is seen to be standoffish or cold in her support that may please a few die-hards but it will do nothing for democrats in the middle or Obama's core supporters. Should Hillary wish to run again 4 or 8 years from now she is going to need those people.


by tessellated on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 12:41:02 PM EST

Re: Hillary campaigning for Sen. Obama is a bad id (none / 0)

to the diarist:  blah, blah, blah, yadda, yadda, yadda

yep, doesn't make sense either, does it?

newflash - Edwards & Biden and all the others stated some pretty nasty shit as well towards Obama.  I guess they should also not campaign for Obama as well.


by colebiancardi on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 12:43:46 PM EST