The Clark Game Of Telephone

Let's say you'd traveled over the weekend, returning late Sunday night. Turning to political news, you may have heard early crowing from Republican quarters about something offensive Wes Clark had said about John McCain's military service.

Then early Monday, you might have been watched a show like CNN American Morning play a clip of Clark saying, unprompted: "I don't think riding in a fighter plane and getting shot down is a qualification to be president."

Then around lunch on Monday, you might have watched Barack Obama's speech on patriotism (or flags, or whatever), where he said:

"For those like John McCain who have endured physical torment in service to our country - no further proof of such sacrifice is necessary. And let me also add that no one should ever devalue that service, especially for the sake of a political campaign, and that goes for supporters on both sides."

That afternoon, maybe you heard about the formation of John McCain's ironically-named "Truth Squad." You might have heard one of the Truth Squad-ers Truth Squad-ing:

"I find General Clark's comments to be unworthy, unseemly, for someone of his stature. And for a campaign that prides itself on the good judgment of its candidate, I think this reflects extremely bad judgment on the entire organization," said Lt. Commander Carl Smith, who served with McCain in the Navy.

The next day, Tuesday, perhaps you watched reports on the evening news about Clark going after McCain's "war record."

Then this morning (Wednesday!), you might have opened up the New York Times and read Maureen Dowd:

Wes Clark joined the growing ranks of troublesome Obama associates when he meowed that just "riding in a fighter plane and getting shot down" is not a qualification to be president. He made McCain sound like a drone aircraft.

This is not even about Obama. It's the old business of grunts resenting flyboys.

Of course, after almost three days of this garbage, you still might not know anything approaching the truth.

First, they ignore that Clark was repeating Face the Nation host Bob Schieffer's words in response to Schieffer's statement that, unlike McCain, Obama has not "ridden in a fighter plane and gotten shot down." Second, they ignore that shortly before that part of Clark's exchange with Schieffer, Clark praised McCain's service: "I certainly honor his service as a prisoner of war. He was a hero to me and to hundreds of thousands of millions of others in the Armed Forces as a prisoner of war. He has been a voice on the Senate Armed Services Committee, and he has traveled all over the world." Clark continued: "But he hasn't held executive responsibility. That large squadron in Air -- in the Navy that he commanded, it wasn't a wartime squadron. He hasn't been there and ordered the bombs to fall. He hasn't seen what it's like when diplomats come in and say, 'I don't know whether we're going to be able to get this point through or not. Do you want to take the risk? What about your reputation? How do we handle it publicly?' He hasn't made those calls, Bob."

Only four more months to go.

Update [2008-7-2 12:57:13 by Josh Orton]: TPM edited a great roundup of the media hyperventilation:



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Re: The Clark Game Of Telephone (2.00 / 1)

i know this usually only happens in communist countries, but is there a way we can shut down our media? They are atrocious and need to be stopped.


by Dog Chains on Wed Jul 02, 2008 at 12:09:24 PM EST

AMEN!!! (none / 0)

AMEN!!!


Sean Robertson
by Sean Robertson on Wed Jul 02, 2008 at 12:17:15 PM EST
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Don't shut us down, limit us to things we can do without making the right-wingers whine, like weather, sports and entertainment.


by spirowasright on Wed Jul 02, 2008 at 12:15:47 PM EST

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That would still leave them global warming, pro wrestling, and Hollywood to bitch about.

You should know by now that there's really no winning that argument.  The more reality is bent to the right-winger's desire, the more irrational their demands become.


by hello world on Wed Jul 02, 2008 at 01:55:04 PM EST
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What can be done about the media?  They're the real problem here and most of the country never sees anything but them because they're too goddamned lazy to look anywhere else.


Sean Robertson
by Sean Robertson on Wed Jul 02, 2008 at 12:16:59 PM EST

m. Dowd (none / 0)

she's now starting to do to Obama what she did to Hillary Clinton and Al Gore


vote blue in 2008
by sepulvedaj3 on Wed Jul 02, 2008 at 12:19:48 PM EST

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My right-wing Dad has twisted it into a whole new reality: that Obama attacked McCain's war record and will pay for it in November. of course he also said Bush would change his stance on immigration and that the insurgency was in its last throes, so I think we're good.


by Todd Beeton on Wed Jul 02, 2008 at 12:24:07 PM EST

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When McCain's campaign first started pushing this lie, I'm sure that's exactly the result they were hoping for.


by Josh Orton on Wed Jul 02, 2008 at 12:28:02 PM EST
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Let me guess though, he was the same person who bought into the Kerry lines hook, line and sinker? Media spin : Clinton =Draft dodging hippy against the veteran Bob Dole. Bush was off doing other things but at least attempted military service (even if CBS made up a memo stating he wasn't a good guardsman) while Kerry was getting these possibly fake purple hearts and commendations that he himself may have written. So now this year, why are we suprised by this?


by Dog Chains on Wed Jul 02, 2008 at 01:20:35 PM EST
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Clark is right, he should not apologize. I think Obama's weakness is that he is too willing to please and compromise with the opposition. The Right Wing Propaganda Machine is going to attack, attack and attack whether Obama tries to please them or not. He needs to use his oratory gifts and start persuading, persuading and persuading.


Dizzy Zzyzzy
by Zzyzzy on Wed Jul 02, 2008 at 12:55:06 PM EST

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Gotta love Pravda; I mean the U.S. MSM.  :(


Purity! Or else!
by ChitownDenny on Wed Jul 02, 2008 at 12:57:16 PM EST

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Nobody seems to credit Clark's basic point: Command experience is different from field experience. It wasn't even really a criticism, just a fact of military life.


by anoregonreader on Wed Jul 02, 2008 at 01:00:36 PM EST

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The media take the time to talk about an actualy issue and dissect something outside the fog of a Democrat (their word) said this and a Republucan claimed he was saying that and it was wrong of him to say that, i didn't think they did that?


by Dog Chains on Wed Jul 02, 2008 at 01:17:18 PM EST
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I like how FOX invite guests on to shout over them. Real classy network.


by liberalj on Wed Jul 02, 2008 at 01:51:52 PM EST

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What utter surreal insanity.

This is like Bob Newhart sketch except it isn't funny becuase its real.


by alexmhogan on Wed Jul 02, 2008 at 02:07:31 PM EST

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That video could be visual representation of the comment threads on any number of blogs, left and right.

It's truly tragic to see and hear the utter lack of ethics, integrity, and reason among those who pontificate on political matters. There is indeed no shame left.


"This victory alone is not the change we seek -- it is only the chance for us to make that change." -- Nov. 4, 2008
by BobzCat on Wed Jul 02, 2008 at 05:16:12 PM EST


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