McCain Flips Out When Asked About Relevance Of Military Record

Well, this never would have happened had General Clark not persisted in his remarks about whether John McCain's military experience qualifies him to be president. Today, on his "Straight Talk Express" plane, a reporter actually asked McCain how his experience qualifies him to be president and McCain turned visibly angry in response (man, I wish there was video, but I suspect we'd have seen it by now...)

From ABC News's Political Radar:

McCain bristled at the comments on "Face the Nation" last weekend by an Obama supporter, retired general Wesley Clark, who belittled the relevance of McCain's wartime experience as a qualification for the Presidency.

"I think it's up to Sen. Obama now not only to repudiate him but to cut him loose," McCain said.

McCain became visibly angry when I asked him to explain how his Vietnam experience prepared him for the Presidency.

"Please," he said, recoiling back in his seat in distaste at the very question.

"Puhh-leeeease." Sorry, Senator, not off limits any longer.

Oh, and here comes the obligatory rescue from his wingmen...

McCain allies Sen. Lindsey Graham stepped in to rescue him. Graham expressed admiration for McCain's stance on the treatment of detainees in US custody.

"That to me is a classic example of how his military experience helped him shape public policy in a way no other senator could have done,'' Graham said.

Sen. Joseph Lieberman, also traveling on the trip, expressed admiration for McCain's wartime service as well.

Hmm, odd that Graham would choose to cite that as an example considering McCain actually voted against banning waterboarding. But what's a little inconsistency among friends?

And then finally there is the requisite McCain "composing himself" moment:

McCain then collected himself and apologized for his initial reaction.

"I kind of reacted the way I did because I have a reluctance to talk about my experiences," he said, noting that he has huge admiration for the "heroes" who served with him in the POW camp and said the experience taught him to love the U.S. because he missed it so much.

"I am always reluctant to talk about these things," McCain said.

Reluctant? Is he kidding? He's been shamelessly exploiting his POW status in television ads since last fall, not to mention his entire political career.

Paul Waldman of Media Matters debunks the myth that McCain is somehow too modest to discuss that part of his life over at HuffPo. On the contrary:

There's a myth out there that the McCain campaign and the media have cooperated to create. It says that John McCain is reluctant to exploit his Vietnam POW story for political advantage, so modest and full of integrity is he. We've seen this repeated again and again, not just by McCain and his supporters but by reporters who ought to know better.

Nothing could be further from the truth.

From the first time he ran for Congress in 1982 up to the present day, McCain has made his POW story the centerpiece of his entire political career. The key moment of that 1982 campaign was when he responded to his opponent's (absolutely true) accusation that McCain was a carpetbagger by saying, "As a matter of fact, when I think about it now, the place I lived longest in my life was Hanoi." At every point since, it has been the deft use of this tool that has brought McCain renewed attention or won him a key victory.

It was an unlikely transition but it's appearing as though, because of General Clark's persistence, the media, wanting to take the story to the next level, could possibly turn from agitator to ally on this issue. If more diligent reporters do continue to ask McCain for an actual answer to the question, McCain had better come up with a response other than anger.



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Re: McCain Flips Out When Asked About Relevance Of (none / 0)

Politics 101: Attack your opponents perceived strengths.  Well done team Obama. Carry on...


by rapcetera on Wed Jul 02, 2008 at 02:54:41 PM EST

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how Rovian. [see swiftboated john kerry]


by darwinism on Wed Jul 02, 2008 at 03:21:58 PM EST
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Other folks who are reluctant to talk about things, according to McCain's definition:

1. Ron Jeremy is reluctant to discuss his sex life.

  1. LaDainian Tomlinson is reluctant to discuss how classy he is.
  2. Curt Schilling is reluctant to discuss his opinions on non-baseball topics.
  3. Joe Lieberman is reluctant to discuss his disagreements with the Democratic party.
  4. Chris Matthews is reluctant to discuss how much he likes John McCain.  

So much reluctance.  Shrinking violets, all of them.  


Saxby Chambliss
by bosdcla14 on Wed Jul 02, 2008 at 02:54:44 PM EST

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When Bush Sr blindsides Obama don't say I didn't warn you...

The American public won't tolerate this avenue but more importantly the voters Obama needs in the middle won't tolerate this issue.

Bush saying serving my country and putting my life at risk was a very important part of being able to put together a successful war in Iraq would blow Obama away.

It contrasts Bush Sr vs Bush Jr and makes McCain seem the Bush Sr faction.

It contrasts the soldier with the general and America sides with the soldier every time.

It contrasts sacrifice with lack of sacrifice...

Its a LOSING issue for Obama.


by dtaylor2 on Wed Jul 02, 2008 at 03:09:11 PM EST

They tolerated it (none / 0)

with john Kerry


vote blue in 2008
by sepulvedaj3 on Wed Jul 02, 2008 at 03:17:51 PM EST
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Re: They tolerated it (none / 0)

It's all the media. It's such a joke and a double standard, that it makes me sad that 60% of this country is too dumb to see it.


by Dog Chains on Wed Jul 02, 2008 at 04:04:55 PM EST
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nothing could possibly ever happen that you wouldnt consider bad for Obama.

thats why no one here even remotely values your opinion.


by falseintellect on Wed Jul 02, 2008 at 03:24:59 PM EST
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Re: McCain Flips Out When Asked About Relevance Of (none / 0)

Yeah, American's respected Bush Sr. so much they reelected him for a second term. What? You mean they didn't? Oh yeah, go ahead let Bush Sr. get involved.

Today, McCain couldn't even answer a specific question on how his military service qualifies him to be president by an ABC reporter.


by batgirl71 on Wed Jul 02, 2008 at 03:36:47 PM EST
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Dude, but look at the way ABC worded it, bristled, if that was a Democrat who acted like that, we'd hear the word hissy fit thrown around, or tantrum.


by Dog Chains on Wed Jul 02, 2008 at 04:05:56 PM EST
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Let's not miss the forest for the trees, now. The story is a minus 1 for McCain.


by JoeFelice on Wed Jul 02, 2008 at 04:44:01 PM EST
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Wait, whaaaaaaaaaat? (2.00 / 1)

Where did you see that Bush was coming out to defend McCain?

And for the last time, Obama is not pushing this attack! McCain is pushing it as an attack BY Obama, which makes it all the more important to refuse to get involved. He needs to keep repeating that these are not his words, this is not his opinion. Make it look as ridiculous as possible that the Republicans keep going on and on about it.


"Hey, check it out. You just had yourself a glue OD. So you're learning another lesson. Don't do too much glue, or your night sucks."
by vcalzone on Wed Jul 02, 2008 at 03:50:10 PM EST
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This is stupid (none / 0)

Even the tone of this post is stupid. You get shot down. You're a POW. now you have Obama's (a former POW of the netroots] surrogates attacking Mccain's military record. how Rovian...the guy whose tactics people complained about with Hillary during the primary.

then you have jim webb (why do people even consider him as a viable VP candidate?!) who eggs on mccain for blowing up...before this blow up.

it was not right with john kerry, it's not right now. this is why i've lost all interest in the pres. campaign. why won't obama just do those townhall meetings so we can focus on issues instead of these petty personal attacks. he wants to give a speech on patriotism? well, do it in a room full of people next to mccain. it's f-ing disingenuous to give a speech on patriotism, splash a flag pin on the cover of rollingstone (and hope people will forget why he stopped wearing it in the first place) then have his surrogates go after mccain's service.

geezus, the old man has a lot of faults, do we need to go after his service? for a candidate, obama, who has been charged of being unpatriotic, this line of attack can backfire on him.

and yes, i blame obama on this line of attack. it's the same tactic he used on hillary. get his spokespeople or surrogate to go after hillary while he plays above the clouds, above it all and unstained. BS!!!!


by darwinism on Wed Jul 02, 2008 at 03:31:28 PM EST

Re: This is stupid (2.00 / 2)

i believe that tactic you speak of is called CAMPAIGNING.


John McCain wants to stay in Iraq.
by ihaveseenenough on Wed Jul 02, 2008 at 03:33:38 PM EST
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Clark did not attack his military (2.00 / 1)

record.

He praised his military record.

He just asked the question, how does serving in the military and being a POW make you experienced to lead the country?

If McCain CANNOT answer that question, then he should not campaign on his military experience


vote blue in 2008
by sepulvedaj3 on Wed Jul 02, 2008 at 03:36:41 PM EST
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Re: Clark did not attack his military (none / 0)

that's like asking:
how does being the wife of a president and greeting foreign dignitaries qualify you to be president?

we both know what the question imply because the question is being asked on the premise of these attacks.

let's not be dense about it.


by darwinism on Wed Jul 02, 2008 at 03:46:52 PM EST
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Re: Clark did not attack his military (none / 0)

So what? It's still a softball.  

Do you think John Kerry has an answer for "How does your military service qualify you?" Yer darn tootin' he does.


by JoeFelice on Wed Jul 02, 2008 at 04:48:19 PM EST
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Re: This is stupid (none / 0)

You're correct, it wasn't right when it was done to John Kerry, but it was effective.
Obama almost has to use this tactic. It's the only way to get the Utterly Stupid Addlebrains to listen to him.
by spirowasright on Wed Jul 02, 2008 at 03:41:06 PM EST
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Re: This is stupid (none / 0)

but it betrays the whole premise of his campaign.

look, it's a democratic year and he has all of the advantages without going to these lows. if he's beaten my candidate with the promise of 'change politics' blah blah blah, then he damn well need to see that through!

i think that's what i'm angry about.


by darwinism on Wed Jul 02, 2008 at 03:49:53 PM EST
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Re: This is stupid (none / 0)

Why is it just politics for McCain to claim that Obama does not love his country, but when someone who ISN"T EVEN ASSOCIATED WITH OBAMA'S CAMPAIGN says that being a soldier doesn't prove leadership, it's an unacceptable character attack?


"Hey, check it out. You just had yourself a glue OD. So you're learning another lesson. Don't do too much glue, or your night sucks."
by vcalzone on Wed Jul 02, 2008 at 03:52:43 PM EST
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Re: This is stupid (none / 0)

name one person in mccain's campaign who's said that?

last i check, jim webb and clark are on the VP list. yep, they wouldn't be associated with the campaign.


by darwinism on Wed Jul 02, 2008 at 03:56:24 PM EST
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Re: This is stupid (none / 0)

The offical VP list that Obama's campaign put out? Where is this list? I haven't seen it.

McCain has not said that he didn't love his country per se, but he has questioned his patriotism many times:

Unlike Senator Obama, my admiration, respect and deep gratitude for America's veterans is something more than a convenient campaign pledge.

...

MCCAIN: I'm sure he's very patriotic. But his relationship with
Mr. Ayers is open to question. And that....[Why?]

MCCAIN: Because if you're going to associate and have as a friend and serve on a board and have a guy kick off your campaign that says he's unrepentant, that he wished bombed more. . . . But how can you countenance someone who was engaged in bombings which could have or did kill innocent people...


That's two examples from McCain himself. If you want to go with people who have spoken on behalf of his campaign, I can go look.


"Hey, check it out. You just had yourself a glue OD. So you're learning another lesson. Don't do too much glue, or your night sucks."
by vcalzone on Wed Jul 02, 2008 at 04:13:46 PM EST
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Re: This is stupid (none / 0)

The only things McCain is running on are war stories and tax cuts.  The former do not qualify one to be president.  Or, if they do, then McCain can explain how that is the case.  As it is, he just expects us to nod and go along with it.


by rfahey22 on Wed Jul 02, 2008 at 03:52:56 PM EST
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exactly (2.00 / 1)

if you want to run on something, then you damned well better be able to say how it qualifies you for the job.


vote blue in 2008
by sepulvedaj3 on Wed Jul 02, 2008 at 04:06:40 PM EST
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A genuine VietNam war hero! (none / 0)

If VietNam experience is so important, perhaps McCain should nominate for V-P a genuine Navy "ace" (who never was shot down or tortured): Duke Cunningham!


by Wilson46201 on Wed Jul 02, 2008 at 03:55:06 PM EST

Far be it from me to start a rumor - - (1.00 / 1)

But why do John and Joe always travel with "confirmed bachelor" Lindsay?
If Charlie Crist starts tagging along, inquiring minds will want to know!
John McCain says he would stay in Iraq for 100 years? That's crazy talk!
by kosnomore on Wed Jul 02, 2008 at 04:39:08 PM EST

Re: Far be it from me to start a rumor - - (2.00 / 1)

Oh hush. You have to be straight to treat women the way John McCain does.


by JoeFelice on Wed Jul 02, 2008 at 04:53:55 PM EST
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